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Post by uadave on Jan 24, 2014 17:38:10 GMT -6
JustinCarf, BFA, Thanks! steve- No video. I just sorta made it up as I went. I could do a sort of recipe or step by step something if you're that interested. It's pretty easy. Nice mini flies Justin! I'm always impressed by people who do that small stuff. Rarely does anything smaller than a size 6 hook cross my vise!
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JustinCarf
Bass
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Post by JustinCarf on Jan 24, 2014 18:01:02 GMT -6
Thanks, uadave ...just you wait...I'll be tying up some size 20 and 22 flies very soon to fill an order.
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Post by plunc on Jan 24, 2014 23:51:42 GMT -6
J.C.: I have fly fished maybe 1 weekend in the last 20 yrs(Driftless, it was pretty cool!), but, I can definitely appreciate the stuff you tie up, looks top-notch stuff. Cool sheet! Way beyond my tying abilities. Although I dont fly fish, for years I have made my own streamers to fish on 3-ways on a spinning rod for walleye and white bass. They can be rather deadly when properly presented, but my bucktail streamers pale in comparison to what the rest of you tie. (but, I'll bet they catch as many fish )
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Post by JustinCarf on Jan 26, 2014 0:10:44 GMT -6
plunc I wouldn't doubt those flies you tie at all. When I first started tying, I was making streamers nery similar to yours, and the fish loved them. If you added some eyes to those, it would look identical to some I tie. While I tie all of these cool looking flies, it's the simple old school ones I always either, start my day with, or tie on mid day to beat a skunk. You really just can't beat simple and proven patterns like a wooly bugger or clouser minnow. Are those weighted at all and what size hook? Oh! And thanks for the compliment on my flies!
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Post by plunc on Jan 26, 2014 2:27:39 GMT -6
plunc I wouldn't doubt those flies you tie at all. When I first started tying, I was making streamers nery similar to yours, and the fish loved them. If you added some eyes to those, it would look identical to some I tie. While I tie all of these cool looking flies, it's the simple old school ones I always either, start my day with, or tie on mid day to beat a skunk. You really just can't beat simple and proven patterns like a wooly bugger or clouser minnow. Are those weighted at all and what size hook? Oh! And thanks for the compliment on my flies! Flies are unweighted, and tied on cheap light-wire aberdeen hooks. I tie most of mine on #4's & #6's. I tried them on actual streamer hooks, and high-grade aberdeens (daiichi, gamakatsu), and the problem was the weight of the actual hook was detrimental to the presentation. I fish them on a swivel-less 3-way, tied on mono(because fluoro sinks) and weighted with a large split-shot or small bell sinker, light-ultra-light spinning rod, and 6lb fireline. Rig is cast downstream, and worked up the current. Idea is to let the sinker sit on the bottom in place, while twitching the fly. Ideally, the current holds the fly up off the bottom and makes it have a darting/dying appearance in the moving water. Think of it as dropshotting with a longer leader to the bait. Let it hit bottom, twitch it a few times, if nothing, real it up a few feet, drop it, and start twitching again. If the hook is too heavy, the fly sinks to the bottom instead of floating back with the current. Has been a deadly way to catch walleyes for me at times, particularly in cold water. White bass will crush them as well, have also caught a handful of decent smallies, lots of crappies, and a few muskies doing this, too. Anyway, thats why I tie them the way I do. 1 question for you fly guys, is there an effective way to get the fly to sink/sit with the hook point-up instead of point-down, without adding weight or bulk? Tried just tying it upside down, and it would still fall/sit point-down in the water. Point-up would increase my strike/hook-up ratio and reduce snags, IMO.
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Post by BFA on Jan 26, 2014 9:45:32 GMT -6
Bead chain eyes on the top of the hook (opposite side of curve) will help keep it riding hook point up.
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Post by steve on Jan 27, 2014 13:19:45 GMT -6
Bead chain will cause it to sink too. Maybe mono eyes.
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Post by BFA on Jan 27, 2014 13:56:12 GMT -6
Mono eyes wont really help with the whole riding hook point up. Tying more buoyant materials on the top of hte hook shank will help though. If I wanted to tie a weightless clouser like plunc's, I think I would probably tie the top half out of body hair and the bottom color/half out of bucktail.
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Post by steve on Jan 27, 2014 14:17:52 GMT -6
True story.
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